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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 31 Oct 2011 14:07 #486278

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Hey guys,

I recently picked up KZ1000 Police bike. I have stripped it completely of the police stuff (all parts are up for sale in the classifieds) and I am making it into a custom, cafe-ish bike. No work done yet, besides stripping it. Here is it to start.

Here is the bike:



Here are some bar options I am looking at.

1: I like this one, cause it isnt super low, I dont really want to go with the cafe bar, cause it is soooooo low.



2: I am thinking about taking this one, and turning it upside down. It would lower the bars alittle more than the one above, but not as much as the cafe



3: Cafe, I think these are too low



What are the opinions?

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 31 Oct 2011 14:17 #486280

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Hey,

Nice find. I have a KZ1000P I'm workining on to become a bobber. I have clubmans on, but not the traditional way. You can see how they look in my thread here .

Will be following your thread to see how it comes along.

V/R

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 31 Oct 2011 14:22 #486282

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Aha, ok. That bar height is a little too much for me. I will be watching yours too. Good luck!

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 31 Oct 2011 15:36 #486305

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For those running without the front fender, go to www.fastfromthepast.com and get one of their front fork braces for increased stability.
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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 31 Oct 2011 16:29 #486316

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Ha, hello again Mike! You are all over the place!!!

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 31 Oct 2011 19:38 #486358

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Ok, sorry, to explain Mike, my name is Josh, you have been helping me tons over on kawasakimotorcycle.com

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 01 Nov 2011 16:00 #486508

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K, so I ordered both of the bars, and not the clubman bar. They are so cheap, I will just pick which one I like best. I also ordered cone filters so I can ditch the airbox. 2 quick questions, 1: Do I need to support the carbs some how? Now that they dont have the air box? 2: do I need to adjust the carbs, cause there is more air now? Lemme know what you guys think.

Also, I have a KZ650 I am working on. It is way further behind than this bike. Seeing as I dont have a headlight for this bike, I am gonna use the 650 headlight for now, but what do you guys recommend for a headlight? I am open to anything. I think a plain round one looks good, but I would be down for something custom and different as well. Lemme know if you have any clever ideas!

-Josh

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 01 Nov 2011 16:27 #486513

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There is always a discussion about whether to go with pods or with the standard air box. To be honest, if you ride with pods, the weather can be a limiting factor in how much you ride. Think about it, if you ride in rain, and the pods get wet and suck in water, it's not so good for the engine. If you don't ride in the rain, it should be fine. Also, you will have to rejet your carbs. And depending on how you ride, after rejetting, you may be tinkering with them for a bit.
I was thinking about changing to pods till I read up on it, now I'm going to stick with my airbox. The pros of the airbox outweigh the cons of the pods for me. Feel free to do a forum search on here and make up your own mind though. ;)

As for the light, Otakar (a member on here) makes a great headlight conversion kit. I'm going to get one myself when I actually have money to order it. Here's a link to an article he wrote: www.kzrider.com/forum/4-electrical/34865...nversion-hid-halogen
Lots of information.
Michael
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Ok, cool! Thanks for the info. I am in southern california and I dont think I was old enough to drive last time it rained! Ha. K, maybe a little exageration, but weather is no issue.

I will check out that headlight.

THanks

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BTW, in an earlier post you had pictures of different bars, showing their pull back, rise and so on. Did you mock that up yourself, or is there a site that shows it that way? I was looking for some different bars for my bike, and trying to imagine them in place would be a lot easier if I could see the measurements like that.
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They are just from ebay. search "cafe race bars" and you will see it.

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 01 Nov 2011 19:16 #486533

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Going to run the electrical wiring for the bars inside or out? If inside, read this:

Pulling Wire Bundles Inside Handlebars

Before running any wiring inside the bars, take time to see if any sharp "Burrs" are there, otherwise they will quickly strip any insulation away from the wire's conductors, resulting in an electrical short.

A Dremel tool with a small stone grinding bit will smooth most burrs away. If a Dremel is not available, a small round rat tail file works just as good.

When preparing to pull the wire bundle through the bars, carefully taper the bundles end with masking tape as this makes for a better pulling situation.

I use aircraft 0.032" diameter safety wire secured to the wire bundle as a pulling medium, Nylon string or small diameter cord will work for this too.

Silicone spray or electricians pulling lubricant should be applied to the end of the wires to ease the operation. It's best to have a helper while doing this to avoid problems of possible pinched or damaged wires. Have your helper apply a steady pulling effort while you carefully feed the wire bundle into the handlebars.

After the job of pulling is done, get a multimeter, set it on the lowest ohm setting, open up the switch housings to access the wire ends and then see if a wire of two has shorted out.

Put one probe on the handlebar and the other on any soldered wire ends on the switches and see if the meter indicates continuity by either making a buzz(some meters have built in buzzers) or a display on the meter face.

An analog meter(the type with the needle indicator) will act similar (except no buzzer) by showing usually a full deflection(needle movement)if there is a short by again, checking with the lowest setting on the ohm scale of the meter.

Finding a short now is a whole lot better than when it's wired up & blowing fuses or possible stranding you on the road.....
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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 02 Nov 2011 12:30 #486695

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I think I am going to do the wiring on the outside. Im not tryin to get too crazy. Although I may mount most of the controls on the bike. Perhaps make a custom switch and button board. Cause really, the only thing you need on the bar is the turn signal, perhaps brights. Starter and kill switch can totally be on the bike frame or somethin.

I guess there is gonna be a lot of unwiring all the extra cop crap that I dont need anymore. I bet someone on here has gone thru all that. Anyone know of any good threads?


Also, what are my best options for footpegs? Instead of those big platforms?

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 02 Nov 2011 12:37 #486696

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sweetbro wrote: I think I am going to do the wiring on the outside. Im not tryin to get too crazy. Although I may mount most of the controls on the bike. Perhaps make a custom switch and button board. Cause really, the only thing you need on the bar is the turn signal, perhaps brights. Starter and kill switch can totally be on the bike frame or somethin.

I guess there is gonna be a lot of unwiring all the extra cop crap that I dont need anymore. I bet someone on here has gone thru all that. Anyone know of any good threads?


Also, what are my best options for footpegs? Instead of those big platforms?


Going through exactly the same thing right now. Trying to look around for people who have gone through it already. So much useless wiring to deal with. I'm going to put all the electronics on one side and just get rid of the other.

THIS can help you out a bit.

And I'm thinking about using old bmx pegs as footpegs.

V/R

Kev
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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 04 Nov 2011 04:08 #486945

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Few things, first, got the filters, um, they look GREAT!!!

Havent got jets yet, local shop should have those.

Also, I ordered and received this tail light , I will be mounting it this weekend.

I also ordered these turn signals . I really dig the shape, kinda plain and old, for LEDs.

I also pulled out the crank case vent system, they call it a PAIR system on street bikes. I just put rubber caps on the top of the valve covers. I forgot to take pictures, I will post one tomorrow.

Now I have a question. I am stripping extra wiring off the bike. I pulled the radio stuff, also, someone had wired in extra horn stuff, pulled that too.

I had a bad stator and replaced that. Bike ran fine for a while, then it stopped chargering. I know it was charging, cause I put a meter on it right after I put the stator in. ANyway, I bought a new voltage regulator, no dice. So I have a few questions. First, what is the repay in the red circle?



It isnt on the wiring diagram, that I could find, it was not fully plugged in. It is now, ha.

Next question, on my right bar control, I have the headlight switch, the kill switch and another switch that has "off" "M" and "P". What is that? Where should I have that set? Could that be stopping the bike from chargering? Also, I found some corrosion on the bullet connectors on some of the wiring under the seat. It was way too late to see if anything is fixed and it is charging yet, but I will check this weekend.

Any help will be great! Opinions too.

-Josh

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 04 Nov 2011 13:43 #486990

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one thing to remember when doing custom wiring and control elimination,is that when your starter button is mounted anywhere but on your bars and you kill it(say taking off from a light)you are not going to be able to just pull the clutch in and hit the button and go again.

you are going to have to find neutral and remove at least one hand from the bars to opereate the button,while dumba$$e$ are trying to (hopefully)keep from running over you.

i have a buddy with a kz chopper and his starter button is right under his ass,i have seen the exact scenario i just described play out and he wants to do something different now.
just a thought,

keep us posted.

leon
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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 04 Nov 2011 13:58 #486993

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Hum, that is a good point! I did realize something last night as well, I have to have at least 2 wires running up the right side, for the brake light switch. So if I am gonna have that, I can do the starter button. I plan to run 3 wires up the left bar for the turn signal as well. 3 wires isnt much, maybe I will go inside the bar. I could do a shared power for the brake light and starter button, yea? We will see. I just dont want to have big ol' control clusters. 1 small switch mounted to the clutch lever perch for the turn signal and 1 small button mounted to the brake perch, should be pretty clean. Of course I will post what I do. I was happy to see that the entire left control plugs into the main harness under the tank. It will be super easy to make that plug into a switch/button plate under the tank.

Hopefully after cleaning stuff my charging problem will be fixed.

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 07 Nov 2011 01:17 #487353

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Police frame:

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1980 shaft frame:

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Would the standard foot controls from a shaftie fit on a police bike?
Michael
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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 07 Nov 2011 02:23 #487370

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Sadly, I'm gonna say that neither would fit on the other. Sorry man.

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KZ1000 Police conversion to cafe custom 07 Nov 2011 02:32 #487372

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Update tho, it seems I blew out my new stator.





A month old and the windings came lose and got between the stator and the magnets. Needless to say, they no longer work.

But, I did get my tail light on, also, cut the rear frame down. Here is pics of the bike and a vid of the tail light/turn signals. These are some fancy Rizoma turn signals that are left overs from my street bike.







This is with the stock bars still on it, I get the new bars tomorrow.

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