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Harvey, I'll have to get back to you on that. The sprocket is at home, and I'm not. I would hope that it is the same thickness as a stock sprocket, or it might throw my offset measurement off.

Patton, you mean this thing right here?



Yeah, I've got it covered, black anodized and everything

poor omr.

Don't worry Joe, I'm sure OMR will be just fine

I made two phone calls yesterday, one to A.P.E., and one to Z1E. The call to A.P.E. was to order tranny bearings. I was very suprised to have them show up this morning



The call to Z1E didn't go so well at first. I called to basically order the remainder of the timing components (idler gears, rubber isolators, chain guide....). I have a new timing chain already, but I figured I would simply call and ask them to send me all of the other timing system wear items. I did not consult a microfiche or parts diagram as I usualy do, this time relying on the knowledge of the salesman to sell me the parts I would need. The salesman (Rob I think?) reacted very differently than I had anticipated, and basically told me he didn't have time to help me place my order with such a broad request, and to look up what I needed and call back. I was shocked, and told him so. I thanked him and said I would do the research and get back with an exact parts list. To his credit and a show of absolute professionalism, he called me back 15 minutes later and apologised for his behavior. It takes alot of charachter to call back an anonymous client and apologise like that. For that, I thank Z1E for employing salesmen of charachter and honor I still need to put that parts list together, but just looking at the rough cost its somewhere around $300-$500 worth of parts.

Looks good to me. I'm surprised about that experience too, but I guess it is a big list of crap to look up.

so,
adam could you just go ahead and make a list of those timing components, .
quantities,part numbers and such,then just go ahead and post the list to help everyone else (including rob(i think))out.

because i have an upcoming project that i need to purchase those exact timing components.
and,
somehow i feel like i might have a better shopping experience if i just call them with a list.

leon

I wonder if the KZ1000 has two different sets? Because the 650 did. My 650 came without those rubber rectangular prisms to keep the shafts in place, and as a result the bottom rubber roller which is rubber was chewed to pieces. I now have a later model shaft with rubber dampers on that shaft. The other two are still plain shafts, but those are sprockets and hence align themselves.

Oh the trials and tribulations of having a KZ650 made in June '76.

Also, how important would you say is replacing the rubber dampers on the top idler sprocket? I know APE has billet blocks for it but I'm unsure if thats necessary.

I think this is still roughly on topic, but this is Adam's thread, which goes off topic more than most so I'm not worried haha.

Here's what I'm talking about. The shafts numbered 9 and 11 come on my bike as plain shafts, no steps, no dampers. This is a part diagram for a 1977 too, even Kawi doesn't acknowledge my situation.

My project thread NEVER gets off topic. I'm not sure what your talking about Tyler

Leon here you go:
Cam Chain Guide Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 PM72-065 $20.50
Cam Chain Idler Sprocket - Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 - Liska LIZ1I $76.57 (2) required
Cam Chain Roller - Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 IM055-002 $13.95
Cam Chain Tensioner Assy 12048-001 $59.88
Cam Chain Idler Assembly - Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 - Liska LIZ1TI $91.39
Rubber cam chain idler damper 92075-232 $2.06 (4) required
Rubber cam chain center idler damper 92075-123 $3.06 (2) required

Grand total $353.22

If I forgot anything, feel free to correct/amend this list.

You also need the shafts for the roller and idler sprockets and the 4 dampers for the idler assembly. Thats if you want to replace the shafts.

Listen, your BUILD gets off topic!

way to take one for the team adam .you are a good man .

leon

glad to see you are taking big swings again...this thing is going nice...

i had some simple mix ups and had to e-mail "Chris" a few times...my tone ,and then in response, his almost, i thought, were getting stepped up as we searched for the mix up and correction...to his and Z! ent's credit i too got a phone call and a nice message updating my orders mix up and some solutions...

i sent em back and was credited and now was helped to some directions for my next order on the phone today by Chris and i hung up feeling pleasant about dealing with that top notch place.....i also earlier in the day talked to a new employee named Mike,he has been a life long cycle guy and sounded jazzed and knee deep in learning the Z1 ent way of sales....he did not even stumble when he told me..."you know what i'm still learning let's ask the other guys" ,in regards to a component source i was researching......

all in all feels good to be back on ordering terms and cool to be able to work (bumpy is good too sometimes ) stuff out with those guys......

more pics.....

i did not know you even rode bikes anymore these days

To Z1E's continued credit, Rob emailed me a comprehensive list of all the o-rings not included in the gasket and seal kits as well as all the timing components required. The grand total on the preliminary invoice was almost $500, but part of that was the use of OEM parts on the list. Substituting Liska componants will reduce this a bit.

Tri, it does feel good to be looking forward. I'm still cleaning my garage out a bit and organizing to make more room for all my composite experiments/molds. Tomorrow I'll swing by Fastenal and pick up an outboard bearing, as well as some small diameter tubing. I want to bolt my cases back into the frame and get the o.b. bearing support fitted, and the frame mounts for it welded in. Just about time to take a fork off and have the paint supply store mix me up some matching single stage polyurethane. Now that I have new tranny bearings and a Z1 crank, its just about time to assemble the lower end, and once I get the rest of the timing chain components I can button up the top end. Ever so slowly..........

I guess that I used to be a parts guy for too long. I always call Z1 with a list of part numbers, prices and descriptions by my side. They still seem to manage to suggest a better/cheaper solution many times.

It's good to see that you are still moving forward. I'm jonesing for some SSSA goodness. BTW one of my buds at work stuck his old Ducati 916 back together. I told him that he better not turn his back on that bike, or he might find it sitting on blocks.

This is probably the easiest thread to get mark's attention and also the one most prone to going off topic, so I'll post here. Mark, I notice you always talk about a yosh sidecover. I happen to have a plastic one I made on the rapid prototype machine at school. I think we should start casting them. Anyone into casting?

I owe Les some progress on his dash, but my bike needs a little lovin' too from time to time.

I SUPPOSE a tangent can be permitted Tyler, but only if I can get at the front of the line for one of those beveled points covers

Josh, no need to strip your coworkers 916 (unless you want to start planning your 750 project ), I'll be putting up some progress in the comming weeks, on my bike as well as Les's and Leons dashes. You're up to 3 dashes, aren't you Leon? You Z1R coveting bastard!

just hadda call me out now dintcha adam!
i have been catching hell over that bike,all my buddies that didn't get it hate me .
i was going to start a thread but didn't know if i could stand the jealousy

leon

p.s. oh yeah,yes is the answer .

porchev914 wrote: I SUPPOSE a tangent can be permitted Tyler, but only if I can get at the front of the line for one of those beveled points covers
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Hey i know this is your thread, but i asked first, get to the back of the line.
Tyler, u know me all too well.

T_Dub wrote: I wonder if the KZ1000 has two different sets? Because the 650 did. My 650 came without those rubber rectangular prisms to keep the shafts in place, and as a result the bottom rubber roller which is rubber was chewed to pieces. I now have a later model shaft with rubber dampers on that shaft. The other two are still plain shafts, but those are sprockets and hence align themselves.

Oh the trials and tribulations of having a KZ650 made in June '76.

Also, how important would you say is replacing the rubber dampers on the top idler sprocket? I know APE has billet blocks for it but I'm unsure if thats necessary.

I think this is still roughly on topic, but this is Adam's thread, which goes off topic more than most so I'm not worried haha.

Here's what I'm talking about. The shafts numbered 9 and 11 come on my bike as plain shafts, no steps, no dampers. This is a part diagram for a 1977 too, even Kawi doesn't acknowledge my situation.

The early KZ650 Kawasaki Parts Catalogs show the configuration you bike has (see pic); it's gone in the later catalogs.

Very nice bike!!

Good to see you back at it Adam