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[*] posted on 25-10-2004 at 06:50
Magnetic Oil Drain Plug



Does anyone use magnetic oil drain plugs for their KZs. I use to have a BMW and it had one on it. It seemed to pick up the small metal shavings from the motor and didn't allow them to be recirculated by the pump.... Does the oil filter do a good enough job of filtering this or should these plugs be added for addional protection

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[*] posted on 25-10-2004 at 07:35


I use one. For a few bucks it seems like cheap insurance to me. It does pick up very tiny bits of metal. I am sure the filter would pick them up also but better safe than sorry.



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[*] posted on 25-10-2004 at 08:48


I'm with Kawtoy on this - plus as it tends to attract any iron / steel particles, when you do drain the oil, it allows you to easily see if the engine has some problems.

The oil filter may trap the particles, but unless you cut open the filter, you may not see them.




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[*] posted on 25-10-2004 at 10:39


Can you even get one to fit a Kaw? I need a new one anyway, prob go up a size since my threads are messed up.
Size and p/n please?
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[*] posted on 25-10-2004 at 14:39


you should stock these jeff. :-)



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[*] posted on 25-10-2004 at 14:58


We stock them for the KZ900's & 1000's - I'll have to see if I can find them for the other KZ's.



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[*] posted on 25-10-2004 at 15:41


How much of the engine is actually ferrus metals?



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[*] posted on 25-10-2004 at 16:02


Phil - good question... tough one to answer easily as it varies significantly with each model.

The Z1/KZ900/KZ1000 engines have a couple of areas where the engine can create iron metal particles.

The cam bearings are one (but most of the other KZ family do not use cam bearings, the cam journals are machined directly into the head).

The front cam chain guide is another area where the guide wears or breaks and those chunks often appear in the oil pan.

Other than these two areas, there are not a lot of places where ferrus metal particles can be generated unless there is a very serious problem.

For those familiar with the other KZ models, maybe someone can provide some insigth to where there is wear.




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[*] posted on 25-10-2004 at 16:35


The transmission is a major source of ferris debris in the engine oil.

My trusty magnet informed me that the following engine parts also contain ferris/magnetic material:

Clutch Disks
Cylinder Sleeves
Piston Rings
Wrist Pins
Crankshaft
Crankshaft Bearings
Camshafts
Camshaft Bearings
Cam Buckets
Valve Shims
Valve Guides

The main reason I have a magnetic drain plug is because the transmission is lubricated by the engine oil.

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[*] posted on 26-10-2004 at 06:08


The first thing I thought of was the tranny. I'd love to have these for my 3 bikes... not sure of the general demand for such an item, but I'm sold...



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[*] posted on 26-10-2004 at 07:08


[quote][i]Originally posted by Jeff.Saunders[/i]
We stock them for the KZ900's & 1000's - I'll have to see if I can find them for the other KZ's. [/quote]

Just to make it easier for you Jeff. Almoast all Kawasakis from 1976 and up to 1995 used the same 12X15 oil drain plug. :cool:




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[*] posted on 26-10-2004 at 07:29


Wow! I just looked up the plug for my '88 Police on my new disk, from Steve @ Zedder, and then checked what else shared the part. The list was staggering. Everything from ATV's, KZ's, ZN, Ninjas to Mules.

Better stock up on plugs Jeff. In case I forget, remind me on my next order.:D




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[*] posted on 26-10-2004 at 07:32


[quote][i]Originally posted by PuGz[/i]
you should stock these jeff. :-) [/quote]

You should be ashamed for even thinking Jeff wouldn't have these. Tsk-tsk...:D




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[*] posted on 26-10-2004 at 08:45


Notice that I ride a kz650 :P

[quote][i]Originally posted by Jeff.Saunders[/i]
We stock them for the KZ900's & 1000's - I'll have to see if I can find them for the other KZ's. [/quote]




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[*] posted on 26-10-2004 at 11:34


There are ddifferences between the KZ650 and KZ900 drain plugs. Kawasaki lists two different part numbers / specs.

92001-1183 listed as 19mm x 15 Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 (thru 1980) KZ1300 KZ400 (some)

92066-1174 listed as 12mm x15 KZ1000 (J motor and later) KZ400 (some) KZ440 KZ550 KZ650 KZ700 KZ750 and many more non-KZ models

I will order some of the KZ650 style plugs (to be honest, I don't know why I overlooked them before).




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